But you know, I learn something new everyday. That’s what I’ve been doing too. Learning stuff. About myself. About other people. About the way things work and what makes things happen. I’m big on learning things.
I guess that’s why stupidity is my biggest pet peeve.
Recently I started an argument online. I know, big surprise, Jo starting an argument. But you know, I was bored and I was in one of those moods where I just like to be annoying. However, it’s really hard to have an argument with a stupid person. It’s more like an exercise in frustration.
Here is the “conversation” which were comments on local news story about two brothers who got in an argument and hit each other over the head with baseballs bats. Both charged with assault….both taken to the hospital for treatment. The italics are my added commentary not in the original stream. I kept all the original spelling for your amusement.
Idiot #1: ghetto at it's finest
An actual intelligence: Sorry BUT this has nothing to do with being "ghetto"... More like it has everything to do with these people just being plain old stupid.... (Some people I tell ya.. just need to watch the kind of words they use, OR rather use them in the proper context..)
JO: ghetto is actually a noun...
Idiot #1: freadom of speech, I can say whatever I want, so can you, so can anybody, which they choose to. (OMG, this is just too easy!!!)
JO: apparently we also have the freedom to misspell things and misplace modifiers and dangle our participles in public Nice line that…dangle our participles in public. Quite proud of that one
An actual intelligence: [Idiot #1], first of all why are you being so defensive? All I said is that what those two men did to each other has NOTHING to do with being "Ghetto", it only has to do with them being stupid. Obviously you are one of those types that THINK that all black people are “Ghetto”…Now, here’s a question. If this had been two white men who were brothers who got into an altercation would you have made the same comment you did? Yea, I think not. So take your “freedom of speech” B.S. and shove it seriously…
Idiot #1: [actual intelligence] i'm not being defensive. (uh, actually you are being defensive just by denying it) It's just a comment, you don't know the reasoning behind it. It's just a word, what about someone saying oh that cracker or someone saying the n word. Someone is going to get mad or offended by what someone else says no matter what it is. It is FREEDOM of speech. You think all the capital letters were just so I could see she had her spell check turned on this time?
Actual Intelligence: Well... stop being ignorant and try using your freedom of speech for good and not to downgrade people... That's what grown, educated people do...
Idiot #1: [actual] didn't know I would get jumped on by a comment. Lady, you’re on facebook. I'll take my educated self somewhere else instead of defending what I write on wall because two people decided to be stupid and seriously hurt themselves with a baseball bat
JO: [actual] that was well said. I don't know about you, but I'd like to know the "reasoning" behind the comment. Apparently, there is some reasoning which would make it an okay statement? I would like some clarification on that. Yeah, I know, I can be a real bitch
I still must insist that no one can “be ghetto” although one could possibly live “in a ghetto”. HoweverSandusky doesn’t have a ghetto so that statement in and of itself is a fallacy worth mentioning. Educated people do not spew vitriol in the form of slang and then defend themselves with vague innuendos and poor grammar. [Idiot #1] perhaps a dictionary would be in order.
Idiot#1: foolish people makeing a big deaL over a comment neither of them had any reasoning behind the comment or the wording. Gett over yourselves someone call the frickin’ grammar police before my English teachers of years past rise up from their graves.
Jo: *Making doesn't have an "e"
*get only has one "T"
I just asked for the reasoning, so you can "educate" me on when it's okay to use a noun as an adjective to disparage an ethnic group you know nothing about
If you're paying for an education, you should copy this discussion and take it in to your educators to demand a refund I checked out her facebook profile. She’s a criminal justice major…nice use of ghetto in that case. Hope her future employers don’t see this.you should copy this and bring that in to your educators to ask for a refund.
[Actual]: We are foolish, yet you still can not answer my question. If the story would have been about two white men getting into an altercation would you have made the SAME comment? You are the one who seems quite foolish. For the fact that you used the word "ghetto" when speaking of these two men, why exactly are they ghetto? A ghetto is a place, so maybe if you were educated you would know that to use the word "ghetto" to describe people is quite ignorant. LoL...
Idiot #1: yes I would have I would have called them ghetto as well, everyone can act the same way oh, I hate when they start to back track, I smell the blood and I get all craaaazzzzzyyyyy
Idiot #2: I used to work with both of these gentlemen and they are both very nice men. I think that situations such as these can happen in ANY family. You never know when you may snap and lose your temper or do or say something we may regret. So while we can maybe chuckle at this story for a hot second (now that we know they are ok) We must remember the real tragedy here is that these men are brothers. Let's just pray they can hug it out. Yep, completely normal behavior to be fighting over laundry and someone gets a bat. Glad I’m not in this one’s family…just saying
Dangerous Idiot: OMG...ladies ! I am sure there are both black and white people living in the ghetto, and as for names..I am Italian, and they call us Dago's, and wop's, and whatever else they can think of lol....I don't care, I am proud of my Italian heritage, so I just laugh and go on That seems to be nothing other then slang, as you hear "thats ghetto" everywhere, especially on TV, and right or wrong, it is just whatever you make of it, as it is not going to stop...just slang, like every other slang word...
Idiot with two cents too much: Our Constitution does NOT grant us the privilege of saying anything we want any time we want. You cannot yell "Fire" in public if there is no fire. But that is only the tip of the iceberg. Think about it! there's always one in every crowd isn't there? One of these people?
Dangerous Idiot: You're right, but, like I said, unless you want to fight everytime someone says something you don't like, you will be fighting all the time. Evidently, there is nothing anybody can do to stop it, or it wouldn't still be happening, so, it is just a fact of life, and slang will be around a long time after we are gone. I don't choose to spend the rest of my life fighting over something someone else says, I have much better things to do then worry about words..like they say, STICKS, AND STONES WILL BREAK .....ETC.
Jo: The idea that someone should just accept an ethnically derisive comment without saying that she's offended, and then to be called a fool for saying so is quite repulsive to me. Actually, it's akin to suggesting that a rape victim just lie back and enjoy it because rape is going to happen no matter what.
Also we’d probably be a lot smarter if we stopped using the television as an authority on grammatical correctness and the bastion of morality. Sticks and stones will break bones but words will never hurt me—so I better just shut up when someone insults me? And it’s normal in any family to go get a baseball bat and bash someone upside the head to settle an argument? What are you people smoking?
Frankly I’m offended by someone who can’t argue without making a personal attack. But I suppose I’ll just sit back and take it like a good little morally bankrupted, brainwashed television whore.
Jo: And ghetto remains a noun.
Dangerous idiot: I am not saying you hhave to accept it, I am saying do you have a solution to the problem? You can't compare a rape victim with a name. Arape victim has a lot of thing she can do, like report it, go to hospital, police called... blah blah blah….What’s with the baseball bat? Where did that come from? …blah blah blah…I’m a well-educated nurse…blah blah blah…You are reading things into what I say. I never called you a brainwashed television whore. I never attacked anyone personally. To be honest I’m rather stunned by just this…the stuff I edited out was a long diatribe about being proud of your heritage and just letting people say whatever they want cuz it happens in every country…ahhh! Even paraphrasing the stupidity irritates me!
Dangerous idiot: I don't want to argue about this all night, I have a life, and I am sure you do, too, but, those people that say things to offend others, have a lot to learn, and if they say something like that, that might offend me, why should I drag myself down to their level? I know they are wrong, but, if there is nothing I can do, except keep it going, and making more trouble, I am to consider the source, and probably laugh at them. Not because it is funny, but because some people just don't know any better, and I am better than that! It’s easy to laugh when you have no clue what in the hell is going on. This is why I am deeply suspicious of happy people---ooh! Another blog topic!
Jo: where did the baseball bat come from? seriously? I did not compare a rape victim to a name. I said telling someone they should accept being wronged and not speak out is akin to telling a rape victim that they can't do anything. It's an analogy. Analogies compare two things. In this case, I compared the pain of a verbal violation to the pain of a physical violation and suggested victim reactions to that pain. (did my own blah blah’s against her blah blahs because the frustration was clearly setting in. mostly it was about her comment how everyone acted like this all over the world and how I was certain that she’d gotten this impression from watching too much television since I’m sure she’s never been out of Ohio)…which brings us to the brainwashed television whore comment. That was sarcasm. Another high-browed concept.
Dangerous Idiot: I compared the rape victim to the word ghetto. AHHHHHHHHH!!! I misunderstood you about the bat. Of course you can speak out, but what's that going to solve? People get shot over less than that these days, and is it really worth it? Blah blah blah Oh, sarcasm is bad, too. Yeah, but it lets me call you a whore without you really getting that I called you one. So it’s actually more fun then bad.
Jo: you compared nothing, you commented on my analogy seriously, I now have to explain to her what she did because she doesn’t understand that she didn’t compare anything merely commented on something she didn’t understand, which is actually my entire point....actually, nevermind. you have nothing to apologize for. You didn't insult me. Everything is rainbows and puppy dogs. Thought I’d add in a little more sarcasm.
Dangerous Idiot: Well, that is kind of bittersweet~~but everyone has their own opinion, and that was mine, whether it be right or wrong, I feel that would be my decision, if the occassion should ever arise. I just think two wrongs never make a right, but, again, that is my opinion. Peace... you know, we don't even know each other, we might have been good friends? She’s right about one thing, this is why people get guns and shoot. But not other people. In this case, this is why someone would shoot themselves. And friends? Really? Not only is she an idiot, she's delusional.
Jo: you're opinion of yourself reaffirms my opinion of humanity. Finishing with some more sarcasm. I’m on a roll.
Dangerous Idiot :)
A smiley face? I call her a whore and tell her that she’s reaffirmed my opinion that humanity is getting stupider with each passing second and she offers up a smiley face. Sigh. The worst kind of idiot is one who has an education and thinks that just because they know one thing, they know everything.
“The more I learn, the more I learn how little I know.” – Socrates
Idiot #1: ghetto at it's finest
An actual intelligence: Sorry BUT this has nothing to do with being "ghetto"... More like it has everything to do with these people just being plain old stupid.... (Some people I tell ya.. just need to watch the kind of words they use, OR rather use them in the proper context..)
JO: ghetto is actually a noun...
Idiot #1: freadom of speech, I can say whatever I want, so can you, so can anybody, which they choose to. (OMG, this is just too easy!!!)
JO: apparently we also have the freedom to misspell things and misplace modifiers and dangle our participles in public Nice line that…dangle our participles in public. Quite proud of that one
An actual intelligence: [Idiot #1], first of all why are you being so defensive? All I said is that what those two men did to each other has NOTHING to do with being "Ghetto", it only has to do with them being stupid. Obviously you are one of those types that THINK that all black people are “Ghetto”…Now, here’s a question. If this had been two white men who were brothers who got into an altercation would you have made the same comment you did? Yea, I think not. So take your “freedom of speech” B.S. and shove it seriously…
Idiot #1: [actual intelligence] i'm not being defensive. (uh, actually you are being defensive just by denying it) It's just a comment, you don't know the reasoning behind it. It's just a word, what about someone saying oh that cracker or someone saying the n word. Someone is going to get mad or offended by what someone else says no matter what it is. It is FREEDOM of speech. You think all the capital letters were just so I could see she had her spell check turned on this time?
Actual Intelligence: Well... stop being ignorant and try using your freedom of speech for good and not to downgrade people... That's what grown, educated people do...
Idiot #1: [actual] didn't know I would get jumped on by a comment. Lady, you’re on facebook. I'll take my educated self somewhere else instead of defending what I write on wall because two people decided to be stupid and seriously hurt themselves with a baseball bat
JO: [actual] that was well said. I don't know about you, but I'd like to know the "reasoning" behind the comment. Apparently, there is some reasoning which would make it an okay statement? I would like some clarification on that. Yeah, I know, I can be a real bitch
I still must insist that no one can “be ghetto” although one could possibly live “in a ghetto”. However
Idiot#1: foolish people makeing a big deaL over a comment neither of them had any reasoning behind the comment or the wording. Gett over yourselves someone call the frickin’ grammar police before my English teachers of years past rise up from their graves.
Jo: *Making doesn't have an "e"
*get only has one "T"
I just asked for the reasoning, so you can "educate" me on when it's okay to use a noun as an adjective to disparage an ethnic group you know nothing about
If you're paying for an education, you should copy this discussion and take it in to your educators to demand a refund I checked out her facebook profile. She’s a criminal justice major…nice use of ghetto in that case. Hope her future employers don’t see this.you should copy this and bring that in to your educators to ask for a refund.
[Actual]: We are foolish, yet you still can not answer my question. If the story would have been about two white men getting into an altercation would you have made the SAME comment? You are the one who seems quite foolish. For the fact that you used the word "ghetto" when speaking of these two men, why exactly are they ghetto? A ghetto is a place, so maybe if you were educated you would know that to use the word "ghetto" to describe people is quite ignorant. LoL...
Idiot #1: yes I would have I would have called them ghetto as well, everyone can act the same way oh, I hate when they start to back track, I smell the blood and I get all craaaazzzzzyyyyy
Idiot #2: I used to work with both of these gentlemen and they are both very nice men. I think that situations such as these can happen in ANY family. You never know when you may snap and lose your temper or do or say something we may regret. So while we can maybe chuckle at this story for a hot second (now that we know they are ok) We must remember the real tragedy here is that these men are brothers. Let's just pray they can hug it out. Yep, completely normal behavior to be fighting over laundry and someone gets a bat. Glad I’m not in this one’s family…just saying
Dangerous Idiot: OMG...ladies ! I am sure there are both black and white people living in the ghetto, and as for names..I am Italian, and they call us Dago's, and wop's, and whatever else they can think of lol....I don't care, I am proud of my Italian heritage, so I just laugh and go on That seems to be nothing other then slang, as you hear "thats ghetto" everywhere, especially on TV, and right or wrong, it is just whatever you make of it, as it is not going to stop...just slang, like every other slang word...
Idiot with two cents too much: Our Constitution does NOT grant us the privilege of saying anything we want any time we want. You cannot yell "Fire" in public if there is no fire. But that is only the tip of the iceberg. Think about it! there's always one in every crowd isn't there? One of these people?
Dangerous Idiot: You're right, but, like I said, unless you want to fight everytime someone says something you don't like, you will be fighting all the time. Evidently, there is nothing anybody can do to stop it, or it wouldn't still be happening, so, it is just a fact of life, and slang will be around a long time after we are gone. I don't choose to spend the rest of my life fighting over something someone else says, I have much better things to do then worry about words..like they say, STICKS, AND STONES WILL BREAK .....ETC.
Jo: The idea that someone should just accept an ethnically derisive comment without saying that she's offended, and then to be called a fool for saying so is quite repulsive to me. Actually, it's akin to suggesting that a rape victim just lie back and enjoy it because rape is going to happen no matter what.
Also we’d probably be a lot smarter if we stopped using the television as an authority on grammatical correctness and the bastion of morality. Sticks and stones will break bones but words will never hurt me—so I better just shut up when someone insults me? And it’s normal in any family to go get a baseball bat and bash someone upside the head to settle an argument? What are you people smoking?
Frankly I’m offended by someone who can’t argue without making a personal attack. But I suppose I’ll just sit back and take it like a good little morally bankrupted, brainwashed television whore.
Jo: And ghetto remains a noun.
Dangerous idiot: I am not saying you hhave to accept it, I am saying do you have a solution to the problem? You can't compare a rape victim with a name. Arape victim has a lot of thing she can do, like report it, go to hospital, police called... blah blah blah….What’s with the baseball bat? Where did that come from? …blah blah blah…I’m a well-educated nurse…blah blah blah…You are reading things into what I say. I never called you a brainwashed television whore. I never attacked anyone personally. To be honest I’m rather stunned by just this…the stuff I edited out was a long diatribe about being proud of your heritage and just letting people say whatever they want cuz it happens in every country…ahhh! Even paraphrasing the stupidity irritates me!
Dangerous idiot: I don't want to argue about this all night, I have a life, and I am sure you do, too, but, those people that say things to offend others, have a lot to learn, and if they say something like that, that might offend me, why should I drag myself down to their level? I know they are wrong, but, if there is nothing I can do, except keep it going, and making more trouble, I am to consider the source, and probably laugh at them. Not because it is funny, but because some people just don't know any better, and I am better than that! It’s easy to laugh when you have no clue what in the hell is going on. This is why I am deeply suspicious of happy people---ooh! Another blog topic!
Jo: where did the baseball bat come from? seriously? I did not compare a rape victim to a name. I said telling someone they should accept being wronged and not speak out is akin to telling a rape victim that they can't do anything. It's an analogy. Analogies compare two things. In this case, I compared the pain of a verbal violation to the pain of a physical violation and suggested victim reactions to that pain. (did my own blah blah’s against her blah blahs because the frustration was clearly setting in. mostly it was about her comment how everyone acted like this all over the world and how I was certain that she’d gotten this impression from watching too much television since I’m sure she’s never been out of Ohio)…which brings us to the brainwashed television whore comment. That was sarcasm. Another high-browed concept.
Dangerous Idiot: I compared the rape victim to the word ghetto. AHHHHHHHHH!!! I misunderstood you about the bat. Of course you can speak out, but what's that going to solve? People get shot over less than that these days, and is it really worth it? Blah blah blah Oh, sarcasm is bad, too. Yeah, but it lets me call you a whore without you really getting that I called you one. So it’s actually more fun then bad.
Jo: you compared nothing, you commented on my analogy seriously, I now have to explain to her what she did because she doesn’t understand that she didn’t compare anything merely commented on something she didn’t understand, which is actually my entire point....actually, nevermind. you have nothing to apologize for. You didn't insult me. Everything is rainbows and puppy dogs. Thought I’d add in a little more sarcasm.
Dangerous Idiot: Well, that is kind of bittersweet~~but everyone has their own opinion, and that was mine, whether it be right or wrong, I feel that would be my decision, if the occassion should ever arise. I just think two wrongs never make a right, but, again, that is my opinion. Peace... you know, we don't even know each other, we might have been good friends? She’s right about one thing, this is why people get guns and shoot. But not other people. In this case, this is why someone would shoot themselves. And friends? Really? Not only is she an idiot, she's delusional.
Jo: you're opinion of yourself reaffirms my opinion of humanity. Finishing with some more sarcasm. I’m on a roll.
Dangerous Idiot :)
A smiley face? I call her a whore and tell her that she’s reaffirmed my opinion that humanity is getting stupider with each passing second and she offers up a smiley face. Sigh. The worst kind of idiot is one who has an education and thinks that just because they know one thing, they know everything.
“The more I learn, the more I learn how little I know.” – Socrates